The God’s Gift ATR, Turning a Good EA into a bad one !

I knew it was only a matter of time before the regular forex crowd took a hold of my god’s gift ATR expert advisor. For the past few months I have seen an outdated version of my ea appear on several websites and forums and inevitably, they have started to test the system as they test all other forex expert advisors out there. I really think it’s a pity. The reason why I keep the ea to myself and my customers is because I think that a certain degree of knowledge is required to trade this expert advisor and I like to serve as a guide to the people that buy my ebook or subscribe to my newsletter in order for them to use the system correctly. Below I point out the main differences between how I use the ea and how others have been testing it in order for you to know what the big differences in trading are :

How I use the system :

  • I forward tested the gods gift 7c logic for 14 months before placing it on any live account
  • I then programmed the gods gift ATR, backtested it on 15 different currency pairs
  • I found out which ones the ea worked with and optimized them from Dec 1999 to Dec 2008.
  • I made several risk projections to ensure that the ea would trade as safely as possible on live accounts.
  • I then run these settings on four separate live accounts, two different sets of settings for the EUR/USD one for the GBP/USD and one for the USD/JPY.
  • I tested the experts on a realiable vps with triple redundant internet connection and made the investor passwords available as well as an ftp with regularly updated results to my newsletter subscribers.
  • I trade through draw down and profit and have confirmed several times the consistency I get between live and backtesting results.
  • I wrote a manual to further help people understand what goes on under the hood
  • I started the God’s Gift ATR challenge to include controlled third party results into the expert’s history.
How people are now testing it on forums :
  • They don’t do proper backtesting and optimization from 1999, the few that do use just the last year or last few months, this extremely curve fits the ea.
  • Most of them don’t have the slightest idea of how this system works
  • They don’t do any risk analysis and just trade it to “see what happens”
  • Sometimes they trade it on more than 5 currency pairs on the same account (this by all means is a sure way to wipe the account)(I only trade one per account ! for very good reasons)
  • They trade it on all pairs with the same settings, without any preoptimization. They also test the ea on some pairs for which I know for certain the ea is NOT long term profitable, sometimes not even short term at all.
  • They run an outdated version of the ea which they adapted to use five digit brokers but in doing so they corrupted the ATR money management and market order size logics (again, they seem to lack of an understanding of how the system works)
As you can see, the great differences between how I test the ea and how it gets tested in forums is just too great. Inevitably, they will conlude that the ea is unprofitable eventually because they are trading it the wrong way. Why don’t I start posting in forums and share all my results for free with everyone and help them succeed ? I am not interested in that. People that go to forums are sometimes arrogant and unwilling to change their mind sets about expert advisors and automated trading. They want you to explain everything to them and somehow, make them profitable in forex trading. I am not interested in fighting with people about how this should be tested or traded, etc. This is why I never asked the forum Administrator to remove the god’s gift atr when this outdated version was posted on a forum a few months ago, because I know that even if the ea is out there for everyone, only one out of ten thousand will be able to find the settings and trade it the correct way and with enough discipline.

For this reason, as I outlined before, I just keep the god’s gift ATR ea and testing to those people that are commited enough to read my posts, make a very small purchase and change the way in which they think about automated trading systems. Automated trading requires effort, requires knowledge and most of all, it requires commitment, something which I feel the crowd that is looking for everything on a silver plate fail to have. As you see, people at forums can turn perfectly good systems into terrible ones just by being totally irresponsible and incoherent with their testing. Why in the world would they test the ea on several currency pairs at the same time on the same account ? and all of them with the same settings ? I don’t know. It is just a consequence of them not knowing what they are doing.

The worst thing about this is that they may get a month or two of profits and someone, somewhere will run that on a live account and lose money because of the irresponsability of the people that test these systems just for the sake of it. In order to test a trading system you must understand what it does and how it does it best, it is not about throwing the system into testing as you see fit.

If you are interested in learning more about the god’s gift atr please consider buying my ebook on automated trading or subscribing to my weekly newsletter to receive updates and check the live and demo accounts I am running with several expert advisors. I hope you enjoyed the article!

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3 Responses to “The God’s Gift ATR, Turning a Good EA into a bad one !”

  1. Winter says:

    Hi Daniel,

    Is it possible not to release the mq4 file, just the ex4 file and add an expiry date to the EA ?

    Is there a possibility that some of the subscribers are one of those crowd ?

  2. Daniel says:

    Hi Winter,

    That would defeat the purpose because ex4 files are easily decompiled and the expiry dates removed. I am not interested in selling the expert or advertising it in anyway. My main interest is that people who have a genuine interest and commitment can have some well developed, professional info and system. The small contribution I ask for is merely to fund the testing accounts and maintain the virtual private servers and ftp hosting. If someone however does not like the ebook or the subscription I will gladly email them the ea if they buy me a cup of coffee.

    Of course, some of my subscribers may be part of the crowd that does not test the experts appropriately and do not really understand the logic but I trust that through the newsletter they will be able to learn how things are supposed to be done. I hope these comments help to answer your questions,

    Best Regards,


  3. Winter says:

    Hi Daniel,

    Its just a pity that the God Gift EA has become a victim when fell to the wrong hand. Nonetheless, you have my support.


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