Trading the Noodle Soup : Discovering the Power of Guppy MA trading

I have always believed that the best trading techniques are the simplest ones. I have realized time after time that complexity is not always the key to success in forex trading and system development and that the use of very simple trading techniques that tackle fundamental aspects of market behavior brings us better results and -more importantly- far more robustness than the more “fancy” and complex trading techniques. One such trading technique which I have always found simple and very good at giving us a general picture of overall market behavior was developed by Daryl Guppy, an Australian trader. Within this article I will talk a little bit about the idea behind the GMA technique (Guppy Moving Averages) as well as its application for the development of successful systems.
The Guppy Moving Average method – which is how I believe it should be called – is nothing more than a simple template that puts certain indicators on the chart in the hopes that they will make trending price action much more evident and easier to handle. This method tells us to use the 30, 35, 40, 45, 50 and 60 slow moving averages and the 3, 5, 8, 10, 12 and 15 fast moving averages. The Guppy method teaches that the first group corresponds to the “long term trader behavior” while the short group corresponds to the “short term trader behavior”. Guppy seems to have understood these moving averages as the representations of the behavior of short term and long term traders within the currency market.

Obviously when you look at a chart – especially at strong trending periods – through the Guppy lens, things seem to align perfectly with what you would expect and trending price action seems to become crystal clear. Below you can see an example of such a period on the EUR/USD. You can notice perfectly how the fast moving average group “collapses” when we are within the retracement of a long term trend while the slow group remains showing us overall trend direction. Guppy Moving Average charts have always reminded me of noodle soups (because of all the lines and their interactions) reason why when I trade with Guppy’s indicator setup I like to refer to it as trading the noodle soup.

However after you spend sometime studying the GMA and its actual use to create a real trading system which succeeds in time you will notice that it is not very straightforward to do. Although many websites on the internet talk about the GMA method, how to setup the charts and the general information given by the interaction of the moving averages none of them describes a real system which allows us to mechanically apply the GMA to obtain long term profitable results. As always it seems that all we have is some pretty noodle soups and no idea of how to interpret this information to arrive at a system that is able to exploit the information shown on the screen to our advantage.

It is fairly obvious that the GMA method is not without its problems and obviously this makes its mechanical application difficult at first. However after analyzing a lot of the characteristics of the GMA and the way the two groups of moving averages interact I was able to come up with a simple yet powerful system that allows us to exploit long term trading behavior within the daily charts in a mechanical way with precise sets of rules on several different currency pairs (ten year backtest of the EUR/USD shown below). This is indeed a fairly simple moving average based system (with the moving averages used by Guppy) that achieves profits in the long term (note that these simulations on daily charts are bound to very live/back testing consistent).

The specifics of this trading system’s rules will however remain hidden for the moment as I believe this idea and its results will form part of a future Currency trader magazine article and they will be further polished to become a future Asirikuy trading system. If you would like to learn more about my automated trading systems and how you too can design and build your own reliable strategies with sound risk and profit targets please consider joining, a website filled with educational videos, trading systems, development and a sound, honest and transparent approach to trading systems. I hope you enjoyed this article ! :o)

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5 Responses to “Trading the Noodle Soup : Discovering the Power of Guppy MA trading”

  1. Fernando Monera says:

    Hello Daniel,

    Did this system end up becoming an actual Asirikuy EA? Maybe the roots of Qualari?

    At least, given the small information you gave in this post, it seems an EA with a low drawdown which could help in any porfolio.

    Cannot be sure about the open drawdown though.

    • admin says:

      Hi Fernando,

      Thank you for your comment :) No, this EA hasn’t become part of Asirikuy yet as I have still lots of work to do before this strategy is where I would want it to for our community. Quallaryi was implemented thanks to Fj (who suggested the time-filtering logic). I hope this answers your questions!

      Best Regards,


  2. carl says:

    how ,where do i put the guppy method on my charts

  3. Karma says:

    You are right about there not being a defined system out there to use the GMMA. But I am interested to know what is yours. Since this was published in 2010 you should have it figured out by now

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